It’s kind of the same. The line that David is trying in the photo is the original line of the Optimist, which is V9-ish. From the start hold, it goes up and left to the left arete, then slaps up the prow. The new beta method, going straight right from the start hold is what most people have done lately. To me, they’re different enough lines and holds that I think they’re seperate problems. Most people have been calling it Optimism lately too.
is “the optimist” the same as “optimism”? Pics look great
It’s kind of the same. The line that David is trying in the photo is the original line of the Optimist, which is V9-ish. From the start hold, it goes up and left to the left arete, then slaps up the prow. The new beta method, going straight right from the start hold is what most people have done lately. To me, they’re different enough lines and holds that I think they’re seperate problems. Most people have been calling it Optimism lately too.
aaahhh. thanks for the clarity.